My name is Lofred Madzou. I’m a policy officer at French digital council, which is basically a non-profit organization that advise the French government on digital policy issue and I specifically work on online platforms accountability

How would you define Transparency?
Data transparency is really about making sure that the end users know what’s going on about the data. How their data has been used and processed by over third parties.

What are the last trends related to Data Transparency?
The biggest trends right now about like a collaborative project that is being discussed right now in Europe, involving academics, policymakers and society organizations to build the tools that are going to empower end-users in this field. Because right now it’s really hard for end-users to really understand what is being done with their data, so it’s really like a two-sided issue. First one is how you build the tools and the second one is how do you basically make these tools available to end users? How you advertise them? How do you communicate about them? So that’s the two trends were seeing right now.

Police officers and regulators have to design the regulatory framework that’s going to incentivize private actors to be more privacy friendly and develop more transparent and accountable data processing tools.

 

Do companies really care about data transparency? And users?
That’s a really difficult question. Let’s say that like as long as this transparency question wouldn’t be a market advantage, we won’t care about it. So, the whole question for now is police officers and regulators have to design the regulatory framework that’s going to incentivize private actors to be more privacy friendly and develop more transparent and accountable data processing tools. So, it’s really about novel market environments that are going to address this issue.

What do you think could be the most significant challenges and developments in the field of personal data transparency online?
I guess the most important challenges are regards the collaborative aspect that I mentioned earlier. Again, to build these tools we need like huge resources. I mean monetary resources but also collaborative resources. And one of the biggest challenges that we face is making sure that we have everyone around the table so policymakers, regulators, specialized organizations and companies to develop and build these tools. So, we need like a huge investment, but also radical change in the mindset and that’s the change that we’re trying to bring about at the French digital council. That’s very challenging.

What do you think of the data transparency lab?
We’re really thankful to DTL for organizing these events. I think that’s a really, really critical event. Why? Because it brings together people working on this issue that basically don’t discuss that much regularly. So, it’s really important to foster and strengthen this global conversation. So, we’re really pleased to be here this year and hope to be part of the next editions in the future. So, thank you very much for the invitation.

I’m Judith Herzog from the French digital Council secretary-general and I’m working with Lofred Madzou on the platform regulation.

How would you define Transparency?
I would define transparency as one of the most challenging issues we are facing right now, in this century, and one of the aspect of this issue is that regulators need to find a way to manage room for transparency between different demands. Demands of the companies to keep the secrecy of their own businesses and on the other side the demand of the society to obtain answers on how these businesses practices are impacting their own rights.

Which are your current projects involving data privacy and transparency?
One part of our job at the French Digital Council is to foresee what would be the right tools in order to help bridges to be built between civil society, organizations, academics and regulators, in order to detect as soon as possible, side effects of platforms behaviours.

What do you think of the data transparency lab?
I think Data Transparency Lab is a really good opportunity for us to get to know more about existing initiatives and in our own job we are very happy to use this as a source for us to shed light on good initiatives.

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